Legislature(2011 - 2012)CAPITOL 106

03/23/2012 08:00 AM House EDUCATION


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08:08:05 AM Start
08:08:34 AM Presentation: Aleutian Region School District
08:39:44 AM HB330
09:38:05 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation by Superintendent Joe Beckford, TELECONFERENCED
Aleutian Region School District
+= HB 330 STATE EDUCATION STANDARDS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 330(EDC) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
               HB 330 - STATE EDUCATION STANDARDS                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:39:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DICK  announced that the  final order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  330, "An  Act establishing  a Joint  Legislative                                                               
Task Force  on Education Standards;  requiring the  Department of                                                               
Labor  and  Workforce  Development  to  provide  information  and                                                               
resources  to  the  task   force;  establishing  state  education                                                               
standards; amending the authority  of the Department of Education                                                               
and  Early   Development  to   adopt  education   standards;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."   [Before the committee was the                                                               
proposed  committee  substitute  (CS)  for HB  330,  Version  27-                                                               
LS1100\E, Mischel,  3/20/12, which had  been adopted as  the work                                                               
draft on 3/21/12.]                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:40:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  HANLEY, Commissioner,  Department  of  Education and  Early                                                               
Development  (EED),   after  assuring  the  committee   that  the                                                               
forthcoming  proposed  education  standards the  state  has  been                                                               
working  on for  the  past two  years are  not  connected to  the                                                               
federal  No  Child Left  Behind  (NCLB)  Act of  2001,  expressed                                                               
disfavor with  HB 330's proposed legislative  finding - paragraph                                                               
(2), Section 1,  Version E - that states  education standards are                                                               
developed only  for those  who earn  a four-year  college degree,                                                               
offering his  belief that that  statement isn't true.   He opined                                                               
that the  state's forthcoming proposed education  standards would                                                               
instead improve the situation for all students.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HANLEY,  in  response  to  questions,  offered  his                                                               
belief  that the  state's  existing  education standards  already                                                               
address  the skills  necessary to  be an  entrepreneur; that  any                                                               
specific curriculum for teaching students  how to start their own                                                               
business would  best be  developed at the  local level;  and that                                                               
establishing separate  education "tracks"  - [one for  only those                                                               
students pursuing college,  and one for all other  students] - as                                                               
has  been done  successfully  elsewhere, might  not  be the  best                                                               
approach  in Alaska  because the  state's low  student-enrollment                                                               
numbers  - and  the  resulting limitation  on  resources -  could                                                               
force  some  schools  to  focus only  on  one  track,  ultimately                                                               
limiting opportunities for students.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  pointed   out  that  education  standards                                                               
should be  consistent for all  students regardless of  the number                                                               
of education tracks being offered.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY agreed.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DICK,  speaking  as  the  sponsor  of  HB  330,  expressed                                                               
interest in  having the state's education  standards be developed                                                               
with input from people other than educators.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HANLEY -  referring  to the  provisions  of HB  330                                                               
which stipulate  that the proposed  Joint Legislative  Task Force                                                               
on  Sustainable Education  ("Task Force")  shall submit  a report                                                               
and  proposed legislation  to the  legislature  by September  30,                                                               
2013,  and   that  the  state   Board  of  Education   and  Early                                                               
Development ("Board") shall adopt  education standards only after                                                               
they have been vetted in a  process to be created by the proposed                                                               
Task  Force  -  expressed  concern that  those  provisions  could                                                               
potentially  delay  [the  adoption of]  "higher-level"  education                                                               
standards for  several years, offering  his belief that  to teach                                                               
only  to  existing standards  in  the  meantime won't  serve  the                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DICK  pointed out,  though, that having  or not  having new                                                               
education standards  in place won't  limit what can be  taught in                                                               
Alaska's schools  - standards only  speak to what  students shall                                                               
be tested on.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:54:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNETTE KREITZER,  Staff, Representative Alan Dick,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,   mentioned   that  she'd   discussed   Commissioner                                                               
Hanley's concern with the bill  drafter, who agrees with her that                                                               
under  HB 330,  the legislature  would not  be involved  with the                                                               
creation   of  the   vetting  process   for  proposed   education                                                               
standards,  and thus  could  not  [inadvertently, either  through                                                               
action   or  inaction,]   delay  adoption   of  such   standards.                                                               
Furthermore, HB 330  contains a sunset date of July  1, 2014, so,                                                               
ultimately, the  bill's requirements are  not going to  limit the                                                               
[Board] with  regard to which  particular education  standards it                                                               
adopts.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DICK, in  response to  comments and  questions, reiterated                                                               
that having education standards in  place won't limit what can be                                                               
taught   in  Alaska's   schools,  merely   what  students   shall                                                               
ultimately be tested on.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HANLEY,   in  response  to  further   comments  and                                                               
questions, pointed out that education  standards merely provide a                                                               
focus  for teachers  - the  standards  themselves teach  nothing.                                                               
Ultimately  it is  up to  everyone in  the community,  taking all                                                               
issues  into  consideration,  to  point  students  in  the  right                                                               
direction with regard to specific curriculum.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON  - expressing favor with  the concept of                                                               
having a task force  such as the one HB 330  provides for - asked                                                               
that  information   regarding  the  fiscal  impact   of  adopting                                                               
education standards be provided to the committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:07:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEAN  MISCHEL, Attorney,  Legislative Legal  Counsel, Legislative                                                               
Legal and  Research Services,  Legislative Affairs  Agency (LAA),                                                               
in response to comments and questions,  and noting that HB 330 is                                                               
temporary and  would only change  uncodified law,  concurred that                                                               
its  proposed changes  would be  repealed on  July 1,  2014; that                                                               
prior to  that sunset  date, the  Board must  rely upon  the Task                                                               
Force's  forthcoming vetting  process; that  nothing in  the bill                                                               
changes statute  or the Board's  existing statutory  authority to                                                               
adopt  performance  standards;  and  that in  terms  of  adopting                                                               
standards once the  provisions of HB 330 sunset,  the Board could                                                               
simply resume  where it  left off prior  to the  establishment of                                                               
the Task Force.   She noted, though, that  a potential separation                                                               
of powers issue  does arise with HB 330's  proposed limitation on                                                               
the Board's executive  functions, but surmised that  it might not                                                               
be  a problem,  since  the  proposed Task  Force  is advisory  in                                                               
nature  and nothing  in  the  bill requires  the  Board to  adopt                                                               
standards  developed  by a  legislative  body  such as  the  Task                                                               
Force.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DICK opined that the  issues discussed demonstrate the need                                                               
for  a   task  force  that   involves  stakeholders   other  than                                                               
educators.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DICK then closed public testimony on HB 330.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SEATON   ventured   that   HB   330's   proposed                                                               
legislative  finding -  paragraph  (1), Section  1,  Version E  -                                                               
stating that  education funding support  is increasing,  might be                                                               
better changed so  as to describe what has occurred  in the past,                                                               
rather than predicting  what will occur in  the future; proffered                                                               
that the aforementioned legislative  finding that's of concern to                                                               
Commissioner  Hanley warrants  further investigation  with regard                                                               
to its  accuracy; and  mentioned that he  is concerned  about any                                                               
delay  in  adopting  state   education  standards  pertaining  to                                                               
language -  particularly those related to  speaking and listening                                                               
skills -  characterizing such as critical  for Alaska's students.                                                               
He  also expressed  interest in  having the  proposed Task  Force                                                               
include a representative from the university.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  concurred, opining  that it  should be                                                               
someone in the field of training future educators.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:18:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON  made  a motion  to  adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment  1, to  add  to Section  2's  subsection (c)(3),  after                                                               
subparagraph (D), "a person from  the university that was head of                                                               
the department  that ... teaches  the ...  [prospective] teachers                                                               
of the state at the university."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON objected  for the  purpose of  discussion,                                                               
and  asked  whether  Conceptual Amendment  1  would  also  change                                                               
subsection (c)(3)  with regard  to the  total number  of jointly-                                                               
appointed members,  changing that  total -  on page  4, line  6 -                                                               
from "eight" to "nine".                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON said yes.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON removed his objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DICK,  noting  that  there  were  no  further  objections,                                                               
announced that Conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:20:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON moved to report  the proposed committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB   330,  Version  27-LS1100\E,  Mischel,                                                               
3/20/12,   as  amended,   out   of   committee  with   individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal notes.   There being                                                               
no  objection,   CSHB  330(EDC)  was  reported   from  the  House                                                               
Education Standing Committee.                                                                                                   

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